This long running series, In Conversation with the Mystic, pairs Sadhguru with well-known celebrities, scholars, journalists, and public figures for a long conversation about wide-ranging topics. In this installment, Sadhguru sits down with Arnab Goswami, head of India’s Republic Media Network, for a talk that alternates profound, deeply moving insights and stories with moments of rapid-fire questioning and exchanges often used by journalists to probe deeply into important issues. Indeed, at times Goswami good-heartedly attempts to put Sadhguru in the metaphorical hot seat, while Sadhguru, for his part, simply fields the questions and addresses them one at a time with warmth, clarity, and his signature good humor.
Early in the conversation, Goswami asks Sadhguru what to make of the all-too-common urgings that people should strive to get rid of fear, insecurity, attachment, and ego. Sadhguru responds with insightful frameworks for managing our inner states, suggesting, among other things, that people often treat the ego as a kind of “fall guy” for the unpleasant parts of themselves.
Goswami then asks a question that has no doubt piqued many seekers’ curiosity for many years, inquiring why Sadhguru’s now well-known transformation on Chamundi Hill happened to him and doesn’t happen to the rest of us. What follows is an abbreviated but powerful version of Sadhguru’s life story, beginning with a child who would stare endlessly at anything for hours at a time and roam the jungle for days on his own. He takes us from there through his time as a motorcycle adventurer criss crossing India, and then to his life as a young businessman who would sit down on a rock on Chamundi Hill one afternoon between meetings, and who, upon standing up from that rock, would simply walk away from everything he had previously known as himself. It’s a phenomenal story that shows what is possible for human evolution and clarifies a number of valuable spiritual approaches to life along the way.
A few more highlights include Sadhguru’s explanation of the nature of human sensory perception and its role in our survival process as well as its limited capacity for helping us move beyond mere survival into a more profound dimension of life. In the latter parts of the conversation, Sadhguru discusses a hopeful trend he sees in a slow process of entire populations coming to think for themselves, a process that could fundamentally reorient human beings’ relationship to truth and therefore to life itself.
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