The greatest miracle in the universe is this: Everything comes out of nothing and goes back to nothing.– Sadhguru
The universe, a boundless and intricate tapestry, weaves together the threads of science and spirituality, time and space, in an ever-unfolding mystery that has captivated human imagination. As we delve into the cosmic unknown, we find ourselves at the intersection of dark matter and dark energy, the whispers of multiverses, and the enigmatic dance of black holes, where the laws of physics blur and the fabric of reality is tested. Meanwhile, the essence of consciousness, the spark that ignites our existence, remains a profound enigma, bridging the chasm between the material and the metaphysical. As we venture further into the labyrinth of the universe, we begin to realize that the secrets of time and space are inextricably linked to the depths of our own awareness, inviting us to explore the ultimate question: what lies beyond the horizon of reality, and what lies within?
In this video, Sadhguru and renowned cosmologist Prof. Bernard Carr engage in a fascinating discussion about some of the deepest mysteries of our cosmos. In a discussion facilitated by Dr. Bala Subramaniam, Professor of Anesthesiology, Harvard Medical School, Prof. Carr and Sadhguru explore a range of topics, including science, spirituality, time and space, multiverses, and consciousness in an event hosted by the Sadhguru Center for a Conscious Planet at Beth Israel Deaconess Medical Center.
Responding to Prof. Carr’s musings and questions about the multi-dimensional nature of time and space, Sadhguru says: “See, there is a continuous talk about the Big Bang. I was talking to one of the scientists who’s written a book on the Endless Universe. Then I asked him a simple question, is it possible there could have been many bangs? He said, “Possible”. Then I said, “If there are many bangs . . . . If you have an automobile, if you take off the manifold, you will see the engine will go bang, bang, bang, bang. If you throttle up, it will roar. So I said, If there were a series of bangs, could it have been a roar? He said, Why not? Possibly. I said, We’ve always been saying it’s a roar. So, we call the first form Rudra. Rudra means the one who roars. He roared. Like this, then we evolved many forms to describe this. This was kala, this was Mahakala, this was kala, this was Rudra, this’s the first form, and then the many forms, how they came, there are various aspects to it.”
“So out of these 84 [big bangs], many have dissolved. Their bare, vague footprint is there, but they have dissolved. 21 of them have a little larger footprint . . . Out of these 21, 10 are almost non-physical. The remaining 11 are somewhat mildly physical, but the last 4 are reasonably physical. So, we see this number 21 as an important process. Whatever we want to do, we do it in 21 minutes, in 21 ways and all this, because these 21 still have a footprint. If you want to rise beyond your physicality absolutely, you have to rise beyond all the 21. But you don’t have to bother about those things, because if you rise above the physical nature, not just in terms of physical body, but even the information is physical.”
“All information that you carry, which makes you, you – whether dead or alive, it still makes you; you, that one, we want to rise beyond that. So that imprint carries all this. And out of the 84, 21 are still manifest in different levels of – for lack of words, I’m saying – transience. From almost non-ex… Others, below 21, they’re completely gone, but their footprint is still there. They don’t have any influence or impact, their qualities are not imprinted in us. But these 21 qualities are there in us. How many more will happen? One-hundred-and-twelve will happen.”
Sadhguru: “So, 112 times it’ll happen. After that, it will manifest in a way that it’s non-physical and becomes a perpetual universe. A non-physical universe will manifest itself, that it doesn’t need physical matter, but exists. And even individual existence may happen, we don’t know. But a proper manifestation of the universe without physicality, when that happens, that is the final one. All I am saying is, this simple thing that I am talking about, if I give you the footprints as to how this has evolved, if you can create a mathematical backbone to it, I think it’ll make sense to lots of people and you will be seeing further, not with physical eyes but mathematically, you will be seeing much further than where you are seeing right now. “
Sadhguru later adds, “In a way, it is like consciousness graduating – that without physical form, it can manifest itself. These things are not today, these things have been spoken millennia ago. How do they know all this? The simple thing is like this – if you look into this piece of creation, the whole creation is present in a footprint form. By looking at my footprint… Suppose I walk through the garden, by looking at my footprint, you can measure my weight, my height, my gait, you can even guess how smart am I. Depending on how I navigate through spaces. But if you have all these numbers, if I show you the footprint, can you build a mathematical ladder to that? If you build that, we can say scientists are seeing something that their eyes or their telescopes cannot see.”
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